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Katie: Howdy and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is with considered one of my pricey private buddies and it’s all about back-to-school well being routines and stress administration for the entire household. And I’m right here with Tina Anderson, who you may need heard from earlier than. I’ll hyperlink to her earlier episodes within the present notes, however she is, like I stated, an expensive private good friend and somebody whose work I respect deeply.
Her journey into the well being world was fairly distinctive. She really started her profession as a trial lawyer who specialised in settling instances by bringing each side collectively, which is a private ardour of hers. However as soon as she had youngsters, she realized that was actually excessive stress for her household. And so she was in a position to make use of her authorized expertise to level her profession in a path because the in-house counsel for a household firm in prescribed drugs. However what she noticed there made her change path once more, as a result of she was annoyed by lots of the abuses she noticed within the pharmaceutical business. And she or he turned towards the sphere of pure well being and located her life’s work and goal.
And she or he started to analysis all she might about illness prevention and good well being upkeep and acquired deeply into intestine well being and the way linked the intestine is for total well being. And so to share all of this data with the world, she and her husband created a complement firm largely primarily based round probiotics. And so they now have an entire line of actually impactful dietary supplements that my household takes.
However on this episode, we go deep on the subject of preparing for again to highschool. We discuss parenting, mindset, together with a improbable technique that her dad used that helped form her optimistic mindset. We discuss her life mantra that I realized from her. After which we go deep on key components for good intestine well being, the most important myths about probiotics, what to know when in search of a probiotic, how 90% of serotonin is produced within the intestine, what psychobiotics are, and a lot extra. It’s at all times a pleasure to speak to Tina. So let’s be a part of her now. Tina, welcome again.
Tina: Thanks, Katie. I’m so excited to be right here with you.
Katie: It’s at all times a pleasure to speak to you. We’re very a lot actual life buddies and I additionally think about you want one of many folks I’m going to for recommendation. You’ve acquired youngsters who at the moment are grown and who you could have superior relationships with. And I like having you as a sounding board and a good friend. And I’m glad that at present I get to ask you a few of those self same questions and we get to report it and let others share the dialog as effectively. So I’m very grateful that you just’re right here.
And for this episode, we needed to deal with the theme of again to highschool. I do know I’m gearing up for that with my youngsters proper now. Quite a lot of different households most likely are as effectively. And you’ve got a minimum of greater than 18 years of expertise of this together with your youngsters and their numerous totally different ages. So I really feel like this can be a subject that may very well be an entire collection of episodes each on the bodily well being facet, the psychological well being facet, the stress reduction facet, the group, the getting again in a routine. There’s so many issues we might cowl. However to begin broad, I might love to listen to should you guys had any kind of traditions, routines or something in your loved ones across the again to highschool time.
Tina: Yeah, you realize, I believe what I simply have such fond recollections of is simply the entire going again to highschool procuring. You realize, they beloved getting their faculty provides once they had been little and, you realize, we’d at all times exit for ice cream afterwards and simply form of make it form of enjoyable, just a little custom. And so, after which we might do, you realize, the opposite enjoyable half was like discovering on the market’s a instructor, you realize, once they return to highschool and so they discover out their instructor and it will, it will, we’d all go collectively and it will be this unveiling. And it was simply, it was enjoyable. There was stress concerned in it as a result of we’re like, oh, what in the event that they don’t get a good friend that they need of their class and all that. But it surely was, it was at all times, we at all times tried to make it actually enjoyable.
Katie: I like that. I believe my expertise is just a little totally different with homeschooling, though we do nonetheless the college procuring half. However for us, it’s like gearing up for the sports activities and so they nonetheless have very lively social lives, however normally via their actions versus via faculty. However one factor I do know that could be a concern for lots of households is, and particularly with youthful youngsters, that again to highschool part and reintroducing with a much bigger group of individuals tends to even be generally just a little little bit of an immune system problem. Plus we’ve all through, as we undergo the autumn, the climate cools down, we’re getting much less brilliant mild and daylight, extra indoors, extra all these items that may kind of construct as much as form of take successful on our immune system.
And so one factor I take into consideration rather a lot this time of yr is we’re shifting into that’s what are a number of the issues we are able to proactively do to maintain our our bodies, our immune methods and our bodily well being optimum, even whereas we’re placing much more inputs into it? So do you could have any methods for that, for maintaining our immune system sturdy, for maintaining from getting sick as a lot as potential as we return into the college, the college form of routine?
Tina: Effectively, I believe you hit the nail on the top with not being outdoors as a lot and never seeing the brightness and the sunshine. I believe we’ve to be extra prescriptive about being outdoors within the solar and getting an honest quantity of sunshine throughout the day, even within the winter months and the autumn months, such as you talked about. I believe we’re, and these youngsters are simply sitting down all day. In the summertime, they’re operating round, taking part in, shifting their our bodies far more than they’re throughout the faculty yr. And I believe simply making an attempt to get them to be shifting extra. And I believe as dad and mom, we simply, I imply, the errors I made, I believe was with my oldest, particularly, I might be like, oh, we acquired to get good grades and we have to deal with this.
And, you realize, now, my God, now I see a lot extra clearly and notice that there have been so many, there have been so many different necessary issues to be specializing in, like getting the daylight and getting, and never being so confused, placing a lot stress on our youngsters with grades and, and the way you, you realize, what you probably did on this report and simply focusing extra on well being and wellness. And I believe I did that extra with my youngest. I used to be rather more consistent with making an attempt to get him outdoors extra and being out in nature. So I believe that will be one space to begin together with your immune system, simply making an attempt to get some extra outdoors sunshine and be extra lively as a result of we simply turn into so sedentary once we had been again to highschool.
Katie: That’s so true. And also you’re positively considered one of my inspirations on this as a result of I’ve gotten to journey with you just a few occasions and seen your routine. And also you’re so good about getting morning daylight, which I do know I’ve talked about on right here so many occasions and the way necessary that’s for our circadian well being. And in addition you’re like such an inspiration in going for walks outdoors. I do know we’ve had conversations the place we went for a stroll, even in some form of attention-grabbing areas like downtown New Orleans at totally different occasions.
However I really feel like that is perhaps considered one of many causes that you’re such a ball of vitality is that you just make time, intentional time for motion and time outdoors, which it’s humorous that we want science to remind us of this, however the research simply hold form of exhibiting up about why these issues are so necessary. And I really feel such as you’re such a very good instance of that.
Tina: Yeah, effectively, thanks. I beloved it. And I might stroll my youngsters to highschool. I used to be in a neighborhood that allowed us to try this. And I believe that should you can stroll your youngsters to highschool and you’ve got the flexibleness to do it, I used to be lucky. I labored from residence. I used to be in a position to stroll them to highschool, however simply getting them began out, strolling is so necessary. I believe, after which simply, after which, you realize, even in highschool, you realize, numerous youngsters are driving going again to highschool and it’s, and I simply suppose making an attempt to get them to simply be lively and transfer extra and simply empowering them with that. I believe that’s the opposite factor as dad and mom.
I’ve realized is which you could’t simply inform them one thing, you realize, you could present them the analysis and it’s a must to present, like have them watch a documentary a few subject that you just wish to train them about simply because that’s how they actually begin to empower themselves and actually then they’re going to make the adjustments. They’re not going to make the change. They could make the adjustments quickly once you inform them, however when, you realize, they’re empowered by the information and understanding of what’s occurring within the analysis, they’re going to begin making higher adjustments.
Katie: I agree. And that’s a recurring theme, I believe, when anytime we discuss parenting on this Podcast can be, to your level, the significance of modeling. And I believe it’s so true that that saying that stated in many alternative methods to many alternative folks, the concept what we are saying is necessary and so they’ll generally hear, however they’re going to pay much more consideration to what we do, even when they faux they’re not or if they struggle to not, that’s what’s going to stay within the long-term.
And so I believe as mothers, particularly, such as you stated, that is what helps us to maintain that focus of us modeling the factor is definitely the factor that’s going to profit them essentially the most. That is most likely why we see that statistic {that a} mother’s train and health degree really has a dramatic affect on her youngsters. It’s as a result of I consider that modeling and them seeing it, which by us doing it, it really offers them permission to prioritize it as effectively. And so I really feel like that is considered one of my core kind of parenting ideas is perhaps converse much less and mannequin extra.
Tina: Sure, yeah, I like that. I completely agree with you.
Katie: What about any suggestions for, so my oldest are simply now within the teenage years, any suggestions for maintaining good traces of communication and good relationship together with your youngsters as they undergo the teenage years and into maturity? As a result of I do know from interacting with your loved ones, you could have an superior relationship with your whole youngsters and a really shut, each speedy and prolonged household. And I believe that’s so lovely. So any suggestions for nurturing that?
Tina: Yeah, thanks. I imply, it’s what I’m most pleased with in my life is my household that we constructed and the connection that I’ve with my youngsters. And you realize, it’s so humorous, so many individuals have requested me this. And I believe one of many issues I bear in mind when my youngsters had been in highschool and you realize, perhaps they weren’t participating within the actions that different folks had been so far as, you realize, perhaps the behaviors they weren’t speculated to be doing. My youngsters had been like, oh, I don’t wish to try this.
And, and other people would say like, how did you could have your youngsters not try this at that age? And I’m like, I don’t, I don’t actually know aside from I simply made residence a really protected place. Not, not simply protected. All of us wish to make our residence protected, however extra like comfy that it’s okay that it’s Friday evening and also you’re a sophomore in highschool and also you don’t have plans. Like that’s okay. Simply hang around with us and be at residence with us.
And I by no means, like I might by no means be like, oh, what are your mates doing? You realize, why aren’t you going out? And effectively, can’t you discover any plans? Or I might at all times simply make it like, oh, what do you, what are we going to do Friday evening? What would you like for dinner with, you realize, dad and I? And so I might, it was extra about, you realize, making it regular that they had been residence with us and never like it’s a must to be comply with the social norms of like doing issues.
They did loads of social actions in highschool, however you realize, all of them undergo phases the place buddies perhaps begin to change and teams begin to change. And I simply suppose it’s necessary that we make it regular that hang around with us. And for us, I imply, that’s simply the way in which we love hanging out with one another. And I believe that was actually necessary. And never being so strict. I believe the much less strict we’re, and I imply, youngsters want boundaries. I’m an enormous proponent of that. I believe youngsters, particularly in youngsters, positively want boundaries, however simply, you realize, not being so judgmental about perhaps they made a mistake and so they made a selection that they shouldn’t have made, however not judging them on a regular basis and making them really feel unhealthy about issues. I believe that has actually helped us be very open about issues.
Katie: That’s such an awesome level, particularly in these situations the place they make a mistake as a result of they’re most likely going to study sufficient from that lesson from having made the error and doubtless be more durable on themselves than we may very well be. And so I really feel like if we are able to allow them to hold the possession of that, not take it away from them by judging them externally and never having to have them justify it and defend, which I believe then places extra vitality into the motion itself. I like that strategy.
And I believe additionally you touched on one thing invaluable, which is it doesn’t matter what age they’re, we are able to’t, I neglect who stated this, however we are able to’t make them and we are able to’t repair them. Like all these issues have to return from within them. And so if we are able to view it as how can we help them in these classes and be the protected place they’ll study these classes with out judgment, I believe that basically helps that relationship. And I additionally love, it looks as if you do that so effectively in your house, of being the place the place not simply your youngsters, however anyone can go and it’s a spot of unconditional love. And that was what I at all times actually needed to goal for. And it appears to be taking part in out with my youngsters is I needed to be the place the place they at all times felt comfy having their buddies, the place everyone was at all times welcome. I’ll feed anyone’s child who’s in my home and hopefully they at all times really feel that there’s unconditional love there. I believe that’s like an intangible that we are able to’t put a worth on, however one which like hopefully actually helps that relationship for our complete lives with our youngsters.
Tina: Yeah, and I imply, you’re a full mannequin of that. I imply, I bear in mind being over and having all these youngsters round and simply everybody having a lot enjoyable and being lively. And it’s actually necessary to have your own home be that approach for everybody. I additionally suppose like to the touch upon grades, I believe that’s one of many largest classes as a dad or mum I realized. I imply, I used to be so totally different parenting my oldest than my youngest. And I believe we’ve to simply deal with studying. I’m certain you discuss this on a regular basis, Katie, I do know you do, nevertheless it’s like, you realize, the grade is just not, I simply really feel prefer it’s virtually irrelevant.
You realize, I imply, what I deal with, particularly my youngest is in school now, I’m like, simply deal with studying. I simply need you to study. The grade, your GPA means nothing to me. It means it ought to imply nothing to you. It’s like, and you realize, typically once you’re studying and also you’re actually specializing in studying, no matter it’s, the grades fall into place. However I believe we simply get so caught up, particularly in highschool with, you realize, learning for, making an attempt to get into faculties and the entire social patterns that we’re speculated to comply with. I simply would warning everyone to simply have your deal with studying. Attempt to get your youngster to like to find out about no matter subject it’s and in no matter method it’s. It doesn’t should be within the classroom. It may very well be Ted Talks, it may very well be no matter it’s.
Katie: Completely. That’s a talent that can serve you your complete life and that hopefully all of us as adults are nonetheless doing day-after-day in some type. However you’re proper. I believe I didn’t study that lesson till maturity. I very a lot was so anxious about grades in highschool and I believe I hooked up elements of my id to how effectively I did in class. And it was an awesome factor to love un-pattern and like go off later in life. But it surely’s one thing I’ve been conscious of with my youngsters of making an attempt to by no means assist or not like form of facilitate a mindset the place they really feel like their price is hooked up to their efficiency in any space, whether or not it’s sports activities, whether or not it’s faculty, however to deal with the core ideas of curiosity and studying and connecting the dots and having enjoyable and overcoming challenges as a result of these are the talents which can be going to truly translate into grownup life and no matter they find yourself selecting, which could not be one thing within the tutorial area, however these are the extra like smooth expertise which can be going to serve them in any facet of life.
And I believe that’s an ideal springboard additionally into the mindset dialog, which is one other space the place you’re positively a supply of inspiration for me. And I do know folks have heard me say down right here, the road I acquired from you, which is that all the pieces will work out completely for me. And you’re such a supply of positivity and also you carry that vitality to any group that you’re in. And so I might love to listen to, I do know we’ve talked about this just a little bit in our different podcasts, however what had been a few of your huge kind of sources of inspiration or studying in mindset and in crafting that mindset?
Tina: Yeah, effectively, thanks, Katie. That’s fairly a praise coming from you. So, yeah, mindset is a big a part of my life. My father really used to wake me up within the morning and inform me I’m getting higher and higher day-after-day in each approach. And it was, it was, and I believed, you realize, God, that’s so bizarre that my dad does this on a regular basis. And little did I do know what it did for me for my, the remainder of my life. And he simply taught me about how I, you realize, you create your future, you create your life and it’s the phrases that you just use. You need to be very cautious with the phrases that you just use.
That, you realize, I talked to him and I’d say one thing like, oh my God, I’m loopy. I can’t imagine I did that. And he’d say, cancel, cancel. Such as you don’t say that. You realize, don’t ever name your self loopy. Like don’t say that even when it’s simply in a joking approach. Simply taught me the facility of phrases and the vitality that you just carry to any state of affairs. He used to again within the day, my God, you realize, I imply, it was a very long time in the past. He needed to have books on tape earlier than books on tape had been a factor. So he would have me dictate Wayne Dyer’s e book right into a tape recorder. And I might examine or learn Wayne Dyer. And naturally I used to be not paying consideration as a result of I used to be like, I don’t care about this, however I believe subconsciously that was all ingrained in me.
And so then Wayne Dyer turned an enormous instructor to me and is the inspiration of our firm. It’s the inspiration of so many issues in my life and the choices I’ve made in I do really feel that, you realize, we actually, we have to do our life’s work. We have to, we might create our future by the, the, the way in which we dwell our life. I believe forgiveness is a big facet of it. That’s one of many cool issues that Wayne Dyer talks about rather a lot. And I’ve coached different family and friends members on forgiveness that I believe they’ve had life altering outcomes about. I’m not a coach or something like that. I simply, it’s only a private ardour of mine.
And I like, yeah, I simply suppose our phrases are actually necessary and our vitality that we carry to any state of affairs is absolutely necessary. And, and as you realize, my well-known mantra that I at all times say is all the pieces works out completely for me. And I believe what’s necessary about that, folks suppose that’s such a daring assertion to say, however all the pieces works out completely for me simply signifies that it’s figuring out completely for me on this state of affairs. And it’s not the way in which I essentially needed it to work out, however I do know that it’s figuring out completely for me. And I’ve to belief that I’ve to belief that, you realize, the universe is offering for me or God is offering for me.
Katie: Yeah, I’ve that assertion on my wall really in my bed room now too. And it’s actually really helped me undertake a few of that mindset as effectively. And to your level, it’s not that all the pieces works out how I need it to work out, however numerous us can most likely look in hindsight at even issues we thought had been very troublesome throughout no matter level we had been going via them and that we might haven’t essentially chosen. However then years later, see how that basically shifted the course of our life or offered a lesson that was actually vital for one thing afterward and see that it actually did work out completely, simply not how we thought completely was going to look.
And now wanting again, I may even take a look at the toughest moments of my life and have like deep overwhelming gratitude for them. Despite the fact that I wouldn’t have chosen them, I can see now I wouldn’t have gotten to go on a few of these journeys I’ve been on had I not had these experiences. And in order that’s one thing I hold prime of thoughts with my youngsters too, is to hopefully assist them have the body of reference to be current in no matter view it as taking place completely, even when it’s not nice or satisfying on a regular basis, and to search for the lesson or to search for the wonder in it, even when it’s one thing that perhaps is troublesome or laborious.
I additionally love that you just introduced up forgiveness. I learn the quote years in the past that forgiveness is setting the prisoner free and realizing that the prisoner was your self. And that’s actually at all times stayed with me as a result of I believe usually we predict, oh, I can forgive them in the event that they do that, or if solely they’d apologize, if solely they’d make it proper. And I believe these are two separate issues. Forgiveness is an inside course of that we get to have full freedom over once we select. Making amends is an entire separate factor and that does contain the opposite individual. However I believe if we are able to separate the forgiveness piece and notice that we at all times have the power to forgive, it doesn’t matter what the opposite individual does or doesn’t do, there’s a lot freedom in that. And so it sounds such as you’ve helped folks attain that time rather a lot, which is gorgeous.
Tina: Yeah, it’s wonderful. What occurs is that it opens up their lives. You realize, I’ve one explicit good friend who had a problem together with his father and unexpectedly he began forgiving his father and all of those different issues. His profession began taking off. Like his relationships had been even higher than they had been earlier than. So I imply, it’s wonderful what occurs once you forgive and it’s so laborious. And it’s not like I’m saying, oh, forgive in the future, you forgive. It’s a course of. However should you simply see that it opens up a lot in your personal life and as unhealthy as somebody has handled you, as horrible as one thing that somebody has performed to you, should you might get to a degree of forgiveness, you’ll actually begin seeing nice issues occur in your life.
Katie: Yeah, and other people have most likely heard me discuss this earlier than as effectively, however for years I used to be doing all of the bodily well being stuff that I knew easy methods to do and dealing with all of the medical doctors and had spreadsheets for all the pieces, making an attempt to repair all my bodily well being issues. And it wasn’t till I additionally addressed that internal emotional facet and adjusted my mindset that every one the bodily stuff began working. And it actually highlighted for me how not solely are the thoughts and physique linked and you’ll’t view both one in isolation, but additionally how highly effective the internal work is for even shifting our bodily well being.
And I believe we perhaps can all consider examples of somebody who simply continues to have well being issues perhaps, however they’ve a mindset that’s kind of like manifesting of their bodily well being or folks such as you who’ve this all the pieces works out completely for me mindset and who like appear to be thriving and limitless vitality. And I believe that not at all times is {that a} trigger and impact relationship, definitely by any means, however that these are actually invaluable components to recollect it’s each/and, not both or in terms of these items.
Tina: Effectively, completely. And I, you realize, I’m clearly interviewed on fairly just a few podcasts about intestine well being, and I’m at all times speaking about the truth that we have to meditate, we have to do deep respiratory or acupuncture, therapeutic massage, no matter it’s that calms you down. We must be doing these items to be taking good care of our intestine well being. After which the reverse is true. You realize, you could be taking good care of your intestine well being to ship indicators again to the mind. And, you realize, it’s like we’ve to keep in mind that what’s occurring mentally is affecting us bodily and vice versa. What’s occurring bodily will likely be affecting us mentally. However they each precisely, they’re each working collectively.
Katie: And also you additionally talked concerning the phrases that we are saying being so necessary. And I like this level as effectively. I’ve tried to concentrate to rather a lot, particularly any phrases that come after the phrases I’m, as a result of I really feel like that’s actually highly effective for what we’re telling our brains and our our bodies. However I’ve realized slowly and this was a course of as effectively. However the internal speak particularly that I had in the direction of myself had a direct affect on my mindset and on my bodily well being as effectively. And also you talked about one saying that your dad would use with you. I’m curious if in case you have another suggestions for kind of nurturing a optimistic mindset towards oneself, as a result of it looks as if for many individuals that’s really essentially the most troublesome to beat. Like we might be variety and the way we converse to our youngsters and our companions and our buddies, however generally studying to talk kindly to ourselves might be the most important impediment.
Tina: Isn’t that the reality? I imply, and I work at this day-after-day and I believe it’s nonetheless laborious for me, you realize, I believe one of many issues that has helped me is simply doing each day morning affirmations. So I’ve my affirmations and it simply units the time out to begin out on a very good be aware and saying phrases which can be affirming the way in which that you just wish to dwell your day and your life.
So I believe optimistic affirmations and the opposite factor is like I’ll discover myself beating myself up as a result of I stated one thing like, oh, you realize, God, these pants are tight on me. After which I’m like, why am I consuming like a pig? Or, you realize, I say one thing like, I’m like, oh my God, Tina, you realize higher than to speak like that to your self. And and I’m like, OK, now I can’t beat myself up about it both. So I believe like acknowledge that you just do. All of us try this. We are saying issues that we shouldn’t be saying. However I and that’s what’s helped me is saying, would I say that to my daughter? You realize, would I say that to my mother? Would I say that to a good friend? And no, I imply, if I’m not going to say it to them, like, by how can I say it to myself? And we’ve to remind ourselves of that.
However I believe saying the morning affirmations is so highly effective to begin your time out. Simply consider one thing like I’m excellent well being or I’m I’m wholesome. I really feel good. I look good. No matter it’s that you just’re engaged on and the way you wish to set your intentions for the day. I’ve a number of. I alter them up. I’ve one which’s like enterprise associated, one which’s private associated, one which’s well being associated. So no matter it’s, I attempt to use these mantras, some that I’ve stated for most likely 10 years. So I believe it’s simply necessary to phrases are highly effective. And I do imagine our unconscious thoughts absorbs these phrases. And so be very prescriptive concerning the phrases that you just say to your self.
Katie: I like that recommendation. And I like that we acquired to get into the mindset facet first, as a result of I actually do imagine, like we’ve talked about, that this can be a actually enormous key, even in terms of bodily well being, and that always it’s ignored or usually it feels insurmountable. And I believe any, even small child steps make an enormous distinction in that space. And so I like that we acquired to the touch on that.
However I do know that you just even have a ton of experience within the bodily well being facet and particularly in intestine well being. And I believe that is additionally crucial right now of yr particularly, not simply because usually when folks return to highschool, their meals can change just a little bit as a result of numerous occasions you’re consuming at college now or packing lunches, but additionally as a result of like we talked about, mild’s altering, your immune system is altering and its inputs at that time, perhaps sleep is altering since you’ve acquired youngsters have extra homework and so they’re up later. There’s a lot occurring there.
And it looks as if we’ve heard sufficient a lot from all these research about intestine well being being completely linked to all points of well being, that something we are able to try this helps our intestine well being really has optimistic ripple results into all areas of well being, from sleep to emphasize to in fact, digestion to pores and skin and on and on and on. So I do know that this is sort of a life’s work and a ardour for you and that you’ve got put in numerous hours into determining the very best options for intestine well being.
However I might love so that you can begin broad and stroll us via what are a number of the core ideas of excellent intestine well being, whether or not or not it’s issues which can be higher to keep away from, issues which can be nice to devour, whether or not it’s stress components, what are the large needle movers in terms of intestine well being?
Tina: Effectively, to start with, I’m so glad that you just talked about that the truth that intestine well being has to do with nearly each facet of our total well being. And naturally, 80% of our immune system is present in our intestine. So we’re making an attempt so laborious to love ramp up our youngsters and ourselves, our immune system as we head into fall and winter. And we’ve to recollect, we’ve acquired to deal with our intestine well being as a result of it’s actually dictating each facet, nearly each facet of our total well being and primarily our immune system. So you’re completely proper to say that.
So a number of the issues I believe to keep away from, you realize, sadly, the world we dwell in is so detrimental to our intestine micro organism. You realize, our intestine is comprised of all these helpful microorganisms, primarily micro organism. And we all know that we live on this world that’s so offensive to our intestine well being. So one of many largest issues is antibiotics. So we all know now to keep away from antibiotics and as a lot as potential, however they’re present in animal merchandise, they’re present in our meals provide. So we’ve to attempt to be very conscious of the meals that we’re consuming that don’t have antibiotics in them.
Additionally with Glyphosate, which is the lively ingredient in Roundup, and it’s sprayed throughout our produce. And that’s so detrimental to our intestine well being. Quite a lot of family and private care merchandise are very detrimental. Quite a lot of shampoos, toothpaste, which is why I might clearly advocate everyone take, you realize, use Wellnesse as a result of I imply, to start with, it’s so good for our hair anyway. I like the way in which it makes my hair really feel. My dad now loves it. It’s so humorous. So I positively suppose we’ve to be conscious of our private care merchandise, too, as a result of they’re simply loaded with all of those toxins.
So there’s chemical substances and toxins throughout our, you realize, the world that we’re residing in. And so we actually must be specializing in taking good care of our intestine well being. Sadly, the soil that we’re consuming off of doesn’t have numerous the microbes that we actually had been used to getting our ancestors used to get. So we, you realize, it’s good to eat fermented meals. Undoubtedly would advocate fermented meals, simply not as a substitute for a top quality probiotic. That’s the place I believe the large mistake is made, is folks suppose fermented meals is a substitute for a probiotic. It has tons of vitamins. It’s very supportive of your intestine well being, nevertheless it’s not a substitute for a probiotic. It doesn’t as a result of the large… you realize, facet of probiotics, in fact, is survivability. And the spore-based probiotic strains that we work with really, we all know survive and get to the intestines alive.
So I might actually deal with avoiding, like antibiotics, avoiding Glyphosate, which is the lively ingredient in Roundup, and deal with consuming natural meals, definitely consuming fermented meals, after which taking a high-quality probiotic could be, you realize, actually supportive of your intestine well being, and doing issues like meditation, strolling in nature, being outdoors, getting within the daylight. All these issues are actually necessary for our intestine well being.
Katie: And we did an entire episode about this, so I’ll hyperlink to it within the present notes. Individuals can go actually deep. But in addition I really feel like there’s numerous myths surrounding probiotics. So I like that you just touched on that fermented meals and probiotics, each necessary however separate, they don’t exchange one another. We want the fiber and the enzymes and all the pieces that comes with fermented meals. And in addition there’s issues particular to probiotics that aren’t essentially simply going to be in fermented meals. However I really feel like there’s many extra myths past that. And lots of of them are nonetheless quite common, like issues round refrigerated probiotics or what strains are greatest and in the event that they survive within the intestine or not.
And so I might love so that you can break down a few of these myths as effectively and speak concerning the distinction between spore primarily based probiotics and different probiotics. As a result of this was new data to me once I first met you.
Tina: Yeah, so the most important fantasy is the refrigeration fantasy. You realize, so many, even medical doctors will say, oh, with the intention to be a very good probiotic, it must be refrigerated. And the rationale why they stated that was as a result of, you realize, you want a dwell microorganism with the intention to even be outlined as a probiotic. So a probiotics definition is a dwell microorganism that confers a profit onto the host, which is the physique. So that they’re considering, oh, effectively, with the intention to be alive, it must be within the fridge. However when you consider it, if a probiotic pressure must be alive, to, they’ll’t even stand up to the room temperature of the shop shelf. It must be within the fridge to remain alive. What on the earth will occur when it goes into your physique, which is 98.6, a lot hotter than the room temperature of the shop shelf? And the reply is that they’re gonna die.
And let’s say the temperature doesn’t even kill them. By the point they get to the abdomen, which may be very acidic and meant to be the gastric barrier, nearly all of strains available on the market are simply killed off by that temperature, the physique temperature, in addition to the acid within the abdomen. So this concept of a probiotic needing to be refrigerated with the intention to be a very good probiotic might be one of many largest myths on the market. And it nonetheless must be debunked. The factor with the strains that we work with, they’re really dormant. They’re not dwell, like within the bottle, they’re not alive. They’re really dormant. After which once they get to the intestines, so that they make that journey out of your throat via the gastric system. And once they get into the intestines, that’s once they take their spore shell off. And that’s once they go into their dwell vegetative cell, dwell vegetative cell state. And that’s once they begin doing the magic within the microbiome.
So we’ve to recollect, a probiotic doesn’t must be alive within the fridge. A probiotic must be alive in your intestines. And that’s one of many largest myths. So we actually wanna make it possible for the probiotic is alive within the intestines.
After which I believe one of many different huge myths out there may be that you just want a excessive rely, a excessive CFU rely. So CFU is Colony Forming Models. You’ll see that on the entrance of the bottle. It’ll say 50 billion CFUs, 250 billion CFUs. Now you see one thing with 500 billion CFUs. And there may be really no research. There are not any research behind exhibiting extra is healthier. In truth, there may be research exhibiting now that like generally when you could have a lot of totally different strains and many totally different excessive variety of CFU really might trigger some points and we might go into that later.
However the necessary factor to know is of these three billion or nevertheless many billion CFUs you could have at a product, what sort of change are they making within the intestine? And one of many first research we did was one thing known as a intestine mannequin examine. And we solely have three billion CFUs in our product. And we noticed a 30% favorable shift within the intestine after solely two and a half weeks. And that is profound to see that kind of a change in such a brief period of time with simply three billion CFUs. And so, don’t get caught up within the 50 billion, 500 billion. That’s actually all advertising and marketing. And there’s actually no analysis behind that.
Katie: That’s so good to know. And the factor I beloved about this once I realized that was that it meant that now I might get probiotics to my youngsters rather more simply as a result of the refrigerated ones wanted to be taken in these very particular situations and also you needed the children to swallow them and numerous my youthful ones on the time couldn’t swallow tablets.
However once I realized concerning the spore-based ones and the way they might survive via the intestine and survive at warmth, I spotted I might combine these into meals, into smoothies, and it was a lot, a lot simpler to get them for my youngsters than in the event that they needed to swallow a capsule solely. And so I like that.
And I believe you guys have made this even simpler now as a result of the gummies simply acquired to my home just lately and my little ones are virtually addicted to those. However I might guess it’s the same idea as a result of they’re secure and may survive all the way in which to the small gut. It’s effective to chew them. It’s effective for them to be in a gummy and so they nonetheless get digested and assimilated the identical approach.
Tina: Yep, precisely. Precisely. It’s actually, that’s what’s so nice about these spores is that they’re so strong that we really examined them. You had talked about we might open them and blend them with meals. You would really bake with them. We examined them as much as 455 levels and so they stay fully secure. So you can bake them and no matter should you’re making some kind of muffin or brownie or one thing you can do or no matter. As I used to place in my son’s piping sizzling oatmeal. And that’s, it’s actually, good for youths to have the ability to have that choice.
I imply, numerous adults don’t even prefer to swallow tablets. After which in fact the gummy is simply, oh my God, that’s been actually thrilling as a result of they style so good. I imply, they style actually good. In order that’s been actually necessary. And that’s necessary to us simply to have the compliance so far as folks taking it. And I believe once they style good, folks will take it extra usually. And in order that was extra necessary to us. We waited a protracted, very long time to provide a gummy as a result of we had been like, oh, you realize, there’s some components that aren’t as nice as we’d prefer to be. We prefer to be tremendous, tremendous clear, however we did the least quantity of something and we had been simply in a position to, you realize, we would like compliance. It’s actually necessary for us to have compliance with taking the product. And that appears to be what the gummy is doing.
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Katie: And one other cool factor in terms of intestine well being that really I believe ties in and circles again to, again to highschool as effectively, is that research regularly are exhibiting that a lot of our neurotransmitters are made in our intestine, really, and the intestine’s known as the second mind, and there’s so many connections there.
And I do know for lots of mothers particularly, this can be a time of yr the place there’s extra stress, extra overwhelm, definitely extra operating youngsters round, extra scheduling. And it seems that we are able to really actually use supporting our intestine to our benefit in terms of stress and psychological well being as effectively. And also you guys have performed some fairly fascinating work round particular strains which can be tied in right here. So I might love so that you can clarify that as a result of I’ve been utilizing JustCalm rather a lot recently, and it looks as if it actually does make a noticeable distinction on stress, however I might love so that you can clarify why.
Tina: Yeah, so simply the intestine alone, simply taking the spore-based probiotic alone, our signature product goes to assist with that as a result of we all know 90% of our serotonin is produced in our intestine. Dopamine is produced in our intestine. GABA, which is the calming hormone, is produced in our intestine. So it’s so critically necessary to be specializing in our intestine well being once we’re speaking about psychological well being and our temper. We see this on a regular basis. So many individuals will perhaps come to our product as a result of they’ve fuel or bloating or diarrhea, constipation, no matter it might be, after which they’ll say to us, oh my gosh, you realize what, like I’m beginning to, like, I’m in a greater temper. I’ve extra vitality. I imply, would this have something to do with the probiotic? And I’m like, sure. You realize, within the pharmaceutical business, it’s like, Unintended effects embody suicidal ideas, loss of life, all these horrible issues. And it’s like right here unwanted effects embody higher temper, extra vitality and higher weight administration we’ve even seen.
So we all know that the probiotic alone helps with simply the leakiness of the intestine. You would return, such as you stated, to a different episode and we might discuss leaky intestine. And we all know that when you could have a leaky intestine, that’s the irritation will begin going to a lot of your totally different organs, considered one of which is your mind. And that’s a part of what causes the difficulty. However now we’ve been specializing in the analysis that you just talked about with this pressure known as Bifidobacterium Longum 1714. And this pressure is named a psychobiotic. And a psychobiotic is a probiotic pressure that’s serving to help that gut-brain entry. So we all know we’ve this intestine mind entry. It’s the communication superhighway, I prefer to name it, as a result of the intestine is sending indicators to the mind and the mind is sending indicators to the intestine. And we’ve identified this for a very long time.
We all know once we’re enthusiastic about one thing, we get butterflies in our abdomen. We all know once we’re nervous, we begin to go to the toilet. These are all connections, these are all indicators going forwards and backwards from the intestine to the mind, the mind to the intestine.
And so we all know that this Bifidobacterium Longum 1714 Pressure that’s present in our JustCalm product really has been in a position, it’s been proven in research to have folks have a greater notion of stress. So simply that means to deal with stress higher really helps carry us extra into that theta waves like mindset, so we’re extra in that circulate state. We all know that it’s really serving to with cognitive operate and skill to focus higher. So it was some actually compelling research on the 1714 pressure.
Katie: That’s so fascinating. And naturally, the opposite element that we all know that’s very well studied right here is again to the immune system element and that when our intestine well being is compromised, our immune well being is by nature compromised as effectively. And it looks as if there’s a really sturdy hyperlink with irritation right here. And it looks as if increasingly more research simply hold pointing towards the widespread hyperlink between most persistent illnesses really being rooted in irritation in lots of instances. And so anytime we are able to profit our intestine well being and provides it the chance to cut back irritation within the physique and to course of that extra successfully, it looks as if it is also gonna have a extremely optimistic affect for the intestine.
However are there any particular methods, particularly as we transfer into form of chilly and flu season that additionally can assist help immune well being particularly from a gut-focused perspective?
Tina: Yeah, so all the traditional issues that I talked about, after which we’ve a IgG product, which is an immunoglobulin G that has been actually, actually supportive. I imply, it’s actually supportive of the liner of your intestine, actually supportive of your immune system. We all know that IgG is principally an antibody that helps assault the, any viruses, toxins, issues like that, that are available, that our physique naturally makes immunoglobulin G. And we all know that this IgG product that we’ve really offers us 25% extra of the IgG in our intestine, which is so necessary as a result of 90% of our immune system is present in our intestine. In order that’s one other technique that we like to make use of, particularly, you realize, as you get into the autumn and winter months. I personally take all of it yr lengthy as a result of I believe it’s such a fricking phenomenal product. However I additionally, you realize, I perceive that perhaps folks may wish to simply take it, you realize, within the fall and winter season, however I might extremely advocate that.
After which simply is from an immune perspective standpoint is simply what we simply hold speaking about, like calming ourselves down as a result of it actually does make a distinction on how our intestine is functioning. We’ve acquired to calm ourselves down and we live on this world that’s so, so, everybody’s wired. It’s like virtually like, you realize, you get an award for being extra wired and being busier. And I don’t need, we discuss modeling for our youngsters. We will’t mannequin that to our youngsters. We’ve acquired to, you realize, present them that we’ve a lot success and happiness once we are simply not wired on a regular basis and we don’t should do all the pieces and be all the pieces to everybody. So, and I do know it’s laborious as a mother and a younger mother. And I simply, I want somebody had advised me that once I youngsters had been little, simply to, you realize, reduce, give your self grace, go gradual, nothing, all the pieces doesn’t should be excellent and simply, you realize, focus in your, your psychological well being too.
Katie: Yeah, completely. That’s so necessary. And that is purely anecdotal, so not medical recommendation. However with considered one of my daughters, I seen that the mixture of IgG and the probiotic appears to actually assist. Truly, she had some recurring eczema when she was youthful, and that appeared to assist her physique actually clear that. And she or he doesn’t have it in any respect anymore. So I don’t know if there’s something particular to that within the research, however in her case, that gave the impression to be kind of just like the magic factor that helped her eczema for anyone on the market who may need eczema with their youngsters.
Tina: Yeah, effectively, it’s all concerning the leakiness of the intestine. With the probiotic alone, we all know we’ve a double-blind human scientific trial on leaky intestine that’s been actually supportive of the intestine well being, that we all know that’s supporting the intestine, the barrier and the intestinal barrier. And now we all know that the IgG product is additional help of that barrier. And simply getting rid, I imply, simply maintaining these toxins from seeping into our bloodstream is absolutely necessary when individuals are coping with autoimmune points, once they’re coping with allergy symptoms. We have to seal up that intestinal barrier. I can’t overstate that sufficient. And people two merchandise are simply such, such enormous instruments in your toolbox.
Katie: And I do know as somebody who’s a busy enterprise proprietor and a mother and all the pieces else that you’ve got in your plate, however you managed to remain, like I stated, so energetic and in good well being. So on a private degree, I might love any suggestions from you which can be form of your personal private 80-20, whether or not or not it’s each day habits, each day dietary supplements, something that you just do as a part of a routine that you just really feel like contributes to that.
Tina: Yeah, so I get up each morning and I do my affirmations. I meditate after which I’m going for my morning stroll that I like a lot. Even within the winter, I’m from Chicago and I nonetheless will go within the winter and I’ll, you realize, stroll and simply get outdoors in nature. And I even love the snow within the winter. So I’m an enormous complement taker. Clearly I take our Simply Thrive Probiotic, our IgG, K2, our Prebiotic. I take all of our merchandise just about as a result of we don’t launch something that I don’t fully agree with or that’s not researched and primarily based in science. That’s been crucial to us.
I additionally take Brocelite, a Cell Chlorophane Complement, and I take Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Fish Oil. What else do I take? I take rather a lot. I’m making an attempt to think about what else I’d, I simply, I take so many, however I’m simply, I’m enormous. I simply imagine that our soil is so depleted. It doesn’t have the vitamins that we wish to be taking.
After which in fact I’ve been specializing in intestine well being as a result of all the pieces else that you just’re making an attempt to soak up goes to be absorbed that significantly better when your intestine is wholesome. And I believe that’s what we’ve to recollect. We’ve a lot irritation occurring in our intestine. And if it’s infected, it’s not absorbing vitamins. So it’s actually necessary that I believe folks begin with their intestine well being after which in any other case all these different dietary supplements and all these different wholesome meals that we’re consuming are usually not actually working.
I additionally am an enormous fan of intermittent fasting. I believe that folks ought to do it in the event that they suppose it really works for them. However for me, it really works nice. I did it, I used to be motivated. I do know so many individuals had been motivated by it to drop some weight. I used to be motivated by it due to the analysis, the way it helped the analysis in intestine well being. It’s very supportive of your intestine well being. We all know that sure micro organism really proliferate in a starved state. So I’ll do intermittent fasting and I normally simply do like a 14 to 16 hour quick, however no matter works for you. However we do know that there’s analysis behind that.
Katie: I agree. And I do know it’s gotten, there’s considerably like controversy, particularly round girls and fasting, however I at all times form of put intermittent fasting or time-restricted consuming in a separate class as a result of that is traditionally one thing we’ve at all times performed in some type and we’re definitely not consuming whereas we’re sleeping. So all of us are literally performing some type of intermittent fasting anyway. It’s simply experimenting with the timeline of that. And to your level, I believe it is vitally particular person and it’s at all times price being your personal main healthcare supplier and doing the experimentation to determine what’s going to be just right for you.
For me, after numerous experimentation, I spotted I really feel nice on a time-restricted schedule, particularly if I shift it earlier within the day. That basically tends to assist with circadian biology. So I attempt to get morning daylight as quickly as potential after waking up. After which I attempt to eat in a extra ahead shifted window within the day. So I’ll eat a extremely nutrient dense breakfast with protein comparatively quickly after waking up. After which I’ll attempt to cease consuming for certain by sundown, however usually by like 5 PM. And I’ve seen that my sleep improves once I shift that consuming window earlier.
And I solely say that as a result of I believe numerous the preliminary intermittent fasting recommendation was from guys and their biology works just a little totally different. And numerous them would skip breakfast and eat it like one or two within the afternoon after which eat until eight o’clock at evening, which definitely works for some folks. However as a girl, I’ve seen for me that earlier window tends to work higher. So if somebody’s experimenting and never seeing good outcomes, that will be one suggestion I might have is shift the window earlier and see if that makes a distinction for you.
Tina: Yeah, I like that. I don’t do it that approach. So I may need to offer {that a} strive. However I like to really feel, you’re completely proper although concerning the, you realize, even should you simply cease consuming earlier and also you go to mattress and you then simply, precisely 12 hours is just not that troublesome to do and also you’re, you realize, simply begin consuming just a little bit earlier.
Katie: Completely. And that’s like, once more, again to that kind of optimistic suggestions loop of stress and sleep and intestine well being and all of those components. The good factor is that if they’re not working for you, they’ll form of turn into a unfavorable suggestions loop. However should you even make optimistic child steps in any of these, it turns right into a optimistic suggestions loop and so they construct on one another. So then vitality will get higher. It’s simpler to decide to doing the issues you realize you wish to do. You may make these habits extra constant and you then proceed to construct that vitality and that motivation. So I like that we’ve gotten to cowl so lots of the points of that optimistic suggestions loop at present.
And some questions I additionally like to ask towards the top of interviews. I do know I’ve requested you these earlier than, however I’m curious if in case you have any, whether or not or not it’s new e book suggestions or latest books which have had a optimistic affect on you and in that case, what they’re and why.
Tina: Yeah, it’s humorous as a result of I at all times return to the 4 Agreements as a result of I do know it’s been used so usually, however I learn it so usually and I simply gave it to a younger household good friend who’s a younger man who’s going off to varsity and he stated, Mrs. Anderson, oh my God, I simply learn this e book and it actually made such a distinction and you realize, I’m actually having fun with it. And I simply, I’ve to say it once more, as a result of I do suppose it’s price rereading if folks haven’t learn it as a result of it actually has made a giant distinction in my life.
And I talked about Wayne Dyer and considered one of his books, he’s acquired so many nice books, however one of many ones that I can see clearly now’s actually, actually good. And that’s most likely the place I realized essentially the most about forgiveness. And I simply suppose it’s actually nice for anybody that’s perhaps fighting forgiveness. His, and simply his life story, it’s principally like a life story and the way you can see a lot clearer, you realize, years later and the way it makes such an affect in your life to love, forgive and watch out with the phrases that you just select. And yeah, these are some books that basically have been impactful to me and I reread them on a regular basis.
Katie: I’ll embody hyperlinks to these within the present notes for you guys listening on the go. All of that’s at all times at wellnessmama.fm together with hyperlinks to the entire merchandise you guys carry. And I imagine there’s additionally a particular low cost from you guys that will likely be within the present notes as effectively. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners at present that may very well be associated to motherhood or intestine well being or mindset or any of the issues we’ve talked about or totally unrelated life recommendation.
Tina: Yeah, you realize what I might say, simply because we had been speaking about youngsters, I believe, simply spend time together with your youngsters. I believe that’s most likely one of many largest issues that has impacted my relationship and my husband’s relationship with our youngsters is simply the truth that we’re spending numerous time, we’ve, we spent numerous time with them and it’s these little, these moments of windshield time, which we, a good friend of ours coined so eloquently, you realize, simply you’re considering like, oh, should you’re driving them right here and there, you’re not likely spending, it’s not high quality time. Imagine me, that’s generally essentially the most high quality time you get is driving them forwards and backwards to actions. They begin to speak extra. So simply get pleasure from these occasions with them and be glad about them as a result of they go by so quick. As you realize, how unhappy I’ve been that my youngsters have gotten older.
Katie: It does go by so quick. I believe my oldest one, turning 16, was a giant, like a form of lightning bolt second for me of realizing simply how little time I might have left with him nonetheless at residence. And so, yeah, I like that recommendation. I believe that’s an ideal place to wrap up for at present. And Tina, it’s at all times such a pleasure to speak to you. I’m so glad that we acquired to catch up and that we acquired to report it at present. Thanks a lot on your time.
Tina: Thanks, Katie. All the time a beautiful pleasure to speak to you.
Katie: And thanks as at all times to all of you for listening and sharing your most dear sources, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us at present. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of the Wellness Mama Podcast.
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